Sunday, November 23, 2008

that arena deal is solid right?

Remember when Blackberry founder Jim Balsille was going to buy the Penguins and said publicly he expected to keep the team in Pittsburgh. Who believed that? The Canadian press is reporting Balsille is going to make another attempt to buy the NHL's Nashville Predators and bring the team to Ontario.

For the record, I would bet the lease agreement between the SEA and the Penguins is pretty solid when it comes to keeping the team in Pittsburgh, at least through the decades the bond is being paid off.. don't want to spur any unjust worries. Now who is going to pay for any more increases in either the building costs or the potential additional financing costs I have mused about.. that is another issue altogether.


and a Cleveburgh addendum.

I knew this article was in the works, but it was an anonymous commenter pointed out this from the Cleveland Plain Dealer blog: Pittsburgh's renaissance holds lesson for Cleveland. As in other stories, the online comments are almost as interesting as the article itself. Just for example, who knew there were Cleveland Browns fans that show their face in town? per one of the comments:
I grew up in Cleveland but have lived in Pittsburgh the last 16 years. On the
one hand, it is a miserable place to live if you are a Browns' fan as am I. On the other hand, there is a very active Browns Backers Club here. I am heading over to Peters Pub in Oakland in a few hours to join 70 other former Clevelanders to watch the game with the Texans.

If that isn't a sure sign that it's a new Pittsburgh, I don't know what else is. I know there must always have been closet Cleveland fans here because of the all the former Cleveland denizens who have moved here at some point.. but the fact that they can congregate in public says a lot.

Note there is even going to be an online chat about that story Monday, Nov. 24 at 11 a.m.. that could be interesting thread to watch. For more information, click on the link to the story above and look in the top right corner.

update: and even more Pittsburgh hagiography. From the anonymous commenter is another article which I didn't know about beforehand from the New Orleans Times-Picayune also on Sunday. See: Smaller, smarter: Pittsburgh turns scars into revenue magnets. It's a bit curious to contrast the Cleveland and New Orleans' versions of the same story essentially in that they talk to very different folks for their quotes.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's also an article on Pittsburgh's "renaissance" from the New Orleans Times-Picayune of all places.

Monday, November 24, 2008 12:43:00 AM  
Blogger C. Briem said...

thanks... I am going to add a mention of that to the post itself. I didn't know about that one. That it is from NO is not so suprising when you read it. Tom Murphy quote in there and also a quote from him former URA head Jerry D. Murphy has been doing work with ULI down in New Orleans which I bet somehow lead to that article somehow.

Monday, November 24, 2008 6:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Article from the AP:

Monday, November 24, 2008 6:34:00 PM  

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