Friday, November 13, 2009


Just because nobody else is mentioning anything like this... but first some supermarkets have gained approval to sell beer. Now the convenience stores want to follow suit.  You can't tell me the pharmacies are not too far behind. Given the long trail of failed pharmacies (think Phar-mor anyone).. there has to be a reason for all the new investment and consolidation in Walgreen's and Rite Aides everywhere. I'm just saying is all.

What I have never asked the lawyers to parse for me completely... but something I mentioned in the past about these liquor license developments is that new venues for beer sales isn't really anything new... I live blocks away from a convenience store that does in fact sell beer as it has for years if not decades at this point.   So it's not really anything new so I don't quite get what is novel about what is happening now or why beer sales have not expanded already.  It's aparently a perfectly legitimate 'E' license for my local convenience store.  In the distant past the neighborhood protested the location of the liquor license, but the legalities were too solid to get rid of it. I wonder if there is any list of nuisance 'convenience stores' out there?  It all came ot mind because it was precisely the location of a fairly horrible attack just days ago.  


Blogger n'at said...

Jiant Iggle has a separate area for accessing, purchasing and imbibing. Sheetz has been remodeling their fuel and cig shacks so a customer can eat, drink and take in the petrol fumes. I guess the difficultly is building around the laws; Sheetz I guess has to clarify more clearly how their stores are programed, and how that corresponds with the law.

And I don't know how that place in friendship is any more of a nuisance than the Penn-Aiken Diary, and it's about equidistant between Nico's and Pistella's. So they got that going for them, which is nice...

Friday, November 13, 2009 8:34:00 AM  
Anonymous MH said...

It's not just the where you can buy beer issue, but also the price. Every other state I've lived in you could buy a 12-pack in the grocery store for only slightly more than the price of 1/2 a case. Since the six-pack stores have to buy from the beer distributors, you have to pay a double mark-up. (On a related note: Whole Foods runs a very nice wine department in other states.)

Friday, November 13, 2009 8:46:00 AM  
Blogger Conservative Mountaineer said...

It's a start. Now, let's move FAST on allowing purchase of wines at a grocery store. Having lived in other states, it was quite convenient to pop in, buy food for dinner and a corresponding wine in... ONE trip.

Oops, I forgot.. we live in a backwards Union-protected nanny state reminiscent of prohibition days.

Friday, November 13, 2009 5:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PA's crappy liquor laws make the state globally uncompetitive!

/Creative class'd

Friday, November 13, 2009 8:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So true Anonymous- when I was in college the common complaint from many of my out-of-state friends was about the stupid liquor laws. Most of them said they could never live in such a backward state and decided not to remain in the area after graduation and return home.

If Utah of all places can loosen their liquor laws, why can't we?

Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:06:00 AM  
Anonymous jet said...

Having lived in numerous other states where one could buy beer, wine, and even hard liquor at the grocery store, I can readily say that every argument for the state store system is pretty much wrong.

I think the real reason for keeping the state stores is all the revenue the state generates by overcharging us at the wine and spirits store.

Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous MH said...

If Utah of all places can loosen their liquor laws, why can't we?

Because PA's alcohol sales support two separate monopolies (beer distributors and state stores). People owing those monopolies pay (in one way or another) government officials (not the state treasury) for their monopoly. If it were about revenue for the state, they could break-up the monopolies and set the taxes where they need to be. But tax money goes to the state treasury, not into campaign funds and the like. Or at least, you can get arrested if you directly use state funds for your campaign.

Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:40:00 AM  

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