Friday, November 20, 2009

Jane Jacobs pub crawl

When I lived in NYC I barely had time to eat, but I still tried hard to visit a different neighborhood in the city each week.  I barely scratched the surface of the city.  That just comes to mind because I caught this note in Metropolis for a Jane Jacobs Pub Crawl which has me feeling a bit nostalgic for living in NYC.  It's one of those ideas I should just fire over to Eve who actually could make it happen... Does anyone do anything like that here? It is said to happen in Jane Jacobs' favorite neighborhood there.  What would Jane Jacobs' favorite neighborhood be in Pittsburgh?

23 Comments:

Blogger smallstreams said...

I nominate three: Southside, Lawrenceville, and Central Northside. Honorable mentions to Bloomfield and Oakland.

Friday, November 20, 2009 6:34:00 PM  
Blogger n'at said...

dunno about comparable pub crawls, but the Watts On festival that CMU put on was always nice.

Although the bars they mention may have a comparable trek in Nico's, Sharp Edge and Kelly's.

Friday, November 20, 2009 7:42:00 PM  
Anonymous John Morris said...

As I recall, almost all of Pittsburgh's mentions in Death & Life of Great American cities are bad. She saw our dead downtown comming.

At this point, only the Southside would qualify as a full blown "Jane Jacobs" type neighborhood, but she might also like the possibilities in Shadyside, Lawrenceville, and Bloomfield.

Remember-- the chapters titled- the need for density and the need for mixed use. Most neighborhoods here just don't cut it.

In fact, because of the hills, walkable places here should be extra dense and mixed up.

Friday, November 20, 2009 10:25:00 PM  
Blogger smallstreams said...

Then again, who needs a "Jane Jacobs seal of approval." Diversity, density, and mixed use are some of many means for this, but walkability, human scale (no big highways), and street protocol are ends. JJ was all about finding the resounding chords of humanity in the unlikeliest places.

My vote: Nico's - Kelly's.

That way I can walk home afterward.

Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:59:00 AM  
Anonymous John Morris said...

Sorry, but that's realy a cop out. Jane's books state the kind of common sense that would be obvious to most store owners and developers.

Why can't most Pittsburgh neighborhoods suport a grocery store? Density. Why, do we need to use so much space for parking? Same reason. Why can't we sustain a funtional transit system? Same reason.

The good news is that many Pittsburgh neighborhoods are not too far away from reaching critical mass assuming they move in the right direction.

The classic time honored logic is that main streets and transit lines are anchored by high density apartments and offices and the density lowers as one gets further back.

The proposals to build apartments and hotels along Baum and part of Liberty Ave would go a long way to anchoring those neighborhoods nearby like Friendship, Shadyside, Bloomfield and Oakland.

It's not like higher density development has not been a sucess here, it has. The Southside shows the normal demand characteristics one would expect.Each new supply of housing, stores and offices has only incresed demand and prices.

Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:56:00 PM  
Blogger Stephen Goldsmith said...

Want to let you know that each year we hold an international event called Jane's Walks for exactly this kind of event.

Would love to have Pittsburgh on our growing list of cities. For more information please check: www.janeswalkusa.org or email us at: stephen@janeswalkusaorg

Look forward to having you join us this May 1st an 2nd!!

Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is Squirrel Hill missing from this list?

Monday, November 23, 2009 9:06:00 AM  
Blogger smallstreams said...

A "Jane's Walk" would be cool. Anyone else up to help coordinate a walk?

Monday, November 23, 2009 8:41:00 PM  
Anonymous John Morris said...

Yes, Squirrel Hill makes the cut.

Monday, November 23, 2009 11:14:00 PM  
Blogger C. Briem said...

Mark, I think you just volunteered. ;-)

Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:24:00 AM  
Anonymous John Morris said...

I had already volunteered in a post I did on my blog.

I think it would be great if a few people did it together. I think I have a decent grounding in Jane's books and life but it would be good if someone was along who knew the city's history better.

Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:27:00 AM  
Blogger chucka said...

I am very interested in helping set up Jane's Walk in Pittsburgh. Please contact me if anyone has started this.
Thanks

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