Monday, May 03, 2010

Singles burgh

I feel bad cribbing from the gnomes behind the paywall over at PG+, but this is too apropos to pass up.  So what you missed by not paying your $3.99/month includes this:

Remember Forbes not so long ago liked to dub us the worst place for singles.  Two women's websites: Lemondrop and Single Minded Women both have recent rankings that say Pittsburgh is one of the best places single women.

update: The PG+ link is here...  new regime over there lets you peek in without paying.  Must be marketing. 
It's not just the rankings in themselves, but some of their justification that is deeper into some form of alternative universe for us.  Lemondrop says:
 "And with both the University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon here, there's no brain drain. Instead, it's the place smartypants come to settle down. "  (emphasis added)
No brain drain.   Who in the world has ever said that. Crazy thinking. While Single Minded Women says:
"Pittsburgh has slightly more women than men, but approximately 29 percent of the population is single. One of the many positive aspects of Pittsburgh is its ethnic diversity, which contributes to the city's culture and its charm, and allows for an affinity, even if you are originally from elsewhere. "
So much to parse, so little time.  More women than men?  you bet.  We are an 'older' region right.  Women live longer than men.  QED on that.  Ethnic diversity?  Again, the only ethnic diversity is from migration a century or more ago so again it all goes back to our elders. Maybe we are a great place for single elders?  Hey, someone must have that ranking. Joe?

This cuts both ways.. as with some negative rankings in the past and these positive rankings these days... don't you get the impression of answers seeking explanations and not the other way around??

and now... KDKA is running with the Forbes most livable story.  Proof that I have not captured the market of assignment editors in town.  But thanks again PG+... maybe this will generate a subscriber and we can call it even.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ethnic diversity? Again, the only ethnic diversity is from migration a century or more ago so again it all goes back to our elders

Hmm. Depends on how you look at it, actually. Factor in the sizable foreign-born student population, the Orthodox Jewish community(ies), and noticeable uptick in both Eastern European and Hispanic residents, and you have something that looks very much like diversity. Granted, the students don't entrench and embed 'culture' into the framework of the City per se, but they certainly flavor things quite a bit in the East End. I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that not all the Russians, Ukrainians, and folks from down south are showing up in the official numbers. There's always been an Eastern European market on the border of Sq. Hill and Greenfield. Now there are three.

Anyways, my point is the perception of ethnic diversity is in some ways as good as the real thing. Also, keep in mind that many single women find advantages in living in the city as opposed to the suburbs, and women who delay marriage or choose to remain single is a rising demographic, and an increasingly urban one. I don't think SMW were talking about the MSA per se, but the City itself.

Monday, May 03, 2010 9:04:00 PM  
Anonymous MH said...

and noticeable uptick in both Eastern European and Hispanic residents

I'm not sure where you are noticing the Hispanic residents.

Monday, May 03, 2010 11:07:00 PM  
Blogger C. Briem said...

My take on the Hispanic population is that in sheer numbers, the perception of big recent growth is overblown. We can quibble over what statistics capture, but no numbers show any large increase and with overall Mexican migration flows into the US thought to be down a lot because of the recession it is hard to see how the numbers coming here could be way up. Nonetheless, in a relative sense any increase at all in the local Hispanic population is going to be perceived as a lot.. which is more a reflection of just how few there were here before. So I do think there are some increases, the flows could not have gone down any more, that we will eventually measure, but it just can't be a lot in absolute terms..

That is what I think is going on. People write me and tell me about hearing Spanish being spoken here or there as if it is some hugely strange thing. It is a Pittsburghism that anyone would notice that at all.

So maybe not a half full/half empty story... but not bone dry story?

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:20:00 AM  
Blogger joe said...

Maybe clues to both the elder singles question and the Hispanic question can be found in quantifying how many Zumba classes are being held at the 61 senior centers in the region (map)...

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:43:00 AM  
Blogger C. Briem said...

I'm there: zumbanomics.

That article is funny though. Jack kelly writing about zUmba is kind of funny. I guess he technically is the fitness reporter.

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:16:00 AM  
Anonymous MH said...

Maybe because of where I am, but I hear many more people speaking Russian or Chinese or Hindi* than Spanish. I know that there is an agency providing services for Hispanic families (on Murray in Squirrel Hill), but it never seems busy.

*I'm guessing a bit as a I don't speak those languages.

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:44:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. Monongahela, Ms. Chief Editor said...

"Zumbanomics." Ah, why I read your blog!

So Chris -- can you think of a name for this?

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous John Allison said...

In the new version of PG+, all citizens can sample 10 pages a month (or some shifting metric)
So, the link to this item should work

Yours kindly,
John Allison
Asst Gnome

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Mermaid said...

My sense is that there are a lot more Asian immigrants in the Pittsburgh area than Hispanic immigrants.

Plenty of Chinese, Korean and Indian people live in the Aspinwall/O'Hara/Fox Chapel area. They're typically doctors and academics who like its proximity to Oakland and the quality of the school district.

Monroeville also has a sizeable Indian population.

Then again, I've worked in the local software industry for many years and have had many Indian and Chinese coworkers, so my perception is probably a bit biased.

Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:43:00 PM  
Blogger C. Briem said...

I have that table out there somewhere... but yes, recent immigrants are mostly Asian.. which includes the subcontinent, so that number includes Indian/Pakistani.

I have to admit I don't think of the Paki number as much... but it's there. Was even talking with a taxi driver not long ago here who was Pakistani... moved here from NY even.

Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:18:00 PM  

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