Sunday, January 23, 2011

Cleveburgh on Cleveburgh

Cleveburgh redux in the Cleveland Plain Dealer on Sunday... and check out their enhancement of my graphic.  Cool.  and check out the comments already posted with it.   They certainly are chatty up the pike.

PD is not new to the topic and from over a couple years ago was this:  Pittsburgh's renaissance holds lesson for Cleveland.  It is worth noting that that story was out a half year before the G20 was even announced as coming to Pittsburgh and, along with some others, may not be insignificant in laying the groundwork that lead the White House to us in the first place as G20 host. So we may owe them.  I still think the seminal piece seeding most of this was from the Detroit Free Press even before that.  Or farther; I'll tell you that the journalist who wrote the FreeP article had been working on that piece for at least the 6 months or so before it ever came out.

Today, the positive Pittsburgh story has become so ubiquitous that we barely mention even when it comes from over the pond. Some of it can be overplayed for sure, but we really  have become a global story in a way that was once, and in some ways still is, hard to grasp. 

Where it brings us back to is the current state where Pittsburgh, and any collaboration I or others can theorize, is not dismissed as it likely would have been for an awfully long time.

I'll add that we are all collectively grateful that the Plain Dealer did not ask me to offer up that oped in verse.  (h/t GregV for that reference as well as for indulging this little thought experiment in the first place of course).

6 Comments:

Anonymous The Wiz said...

Nice to see your ideas so warmly embraced by the Browns fans.

And most failed to see that you were talking about cooperation..not consolidation. Nothing wrong with cooperation.

As for the graphics, they looked cool but they cheated Lawrence Co out of 30,000 people and Mercer Co out of 80,000 people. Allegheny Co was right, I didn't check the rest. Just can't trust Browns fans, I guess.

But it is nice to see a dialogue started.

Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:06:00 PM  
Anonymous BrianTH said...

Seeing the Comments, I do wonder if there is too much of the Great Lakes/Midwest in Cleveland to make Pittsland a realistic possibility. But maybe that is best framed as a choice, and one Cleveland will in some sense have to make for itself.

Sunday, January 23, 2011 6:11:00 AM  
Blogger Mike Madison said...

And here I thought I was doing my best to be upbeat, or at least balanced, and shed my "the sky is falling in Pittsburgh" reputation. ;-)

Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger Kevin said...

Please don't assign too much value to the comments at Cleveland.com. The comments section is, IMO, a notorious cesspool, populated mainly by trolls and the willfully ignorant.

Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot has been published about growth, comeback cities, development, etc. A note on how to measure growth. I would rule out any data from the following sources:
1. Economic development corporations/organizations like Pittsburgh Life Sciences or Cleveland's Bioenterprise
2. Chambers of commerce
3. State and local economic development agencies
4. Community Development corporations and the like
5. Every magazine and newspaper

Look at raw data from unbiased sources and take some time to distill it down to meaningful conclusions. Unbiased sources in my opinion are:

1. The US census bureau
2. The US bureau of Economic Analysis
3. University Professors of Economics, etc. Particularly if they are from a different city - should be reputable data
4. EconomicIndicators.gov
there are several others

Published lists, even from seemingly unbiased and lofty magazines like Forbes, are usually worthless sources of good data. They are meant to sell magazines and papers. Development organizations need to justify their existence and grab more dollars. The same applies to community development organizations. Its all bad data for the most part. Biased data is bad data.


So when we talk about combining regions, are we just combining lists or development organizations? The dollars and time spent should be weighed against change in the good data, not the bad data.

216facts

Monday, January 24, 2011 7:27:00 PM  
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