Tuesday, December 06, 2011

Jersey Shore voting with their feet

It's going to be a migration story week.   Via the AP and the New Jersey Star Ledger is the story of the day.   It says that more and more residents of New Jersey are fleeing....   to Pennsylvania?

I thought we were a tax hell or something like that?  Everyone should be fleeing Pennsylvania I thought.  I know I read that somewhere???

Note that the New Jersey folks are probably not heading into the state for the shale gas jobs. Will have to look a bit more closely at this data myself to see if there is anything to be said about migration of shale workers into the state.

The parsing has only begun actually.  Pittsburgh (city, region or pick your county) has always ranked near the top in a metric of what percentage of householders have lived in their current place of residence the longest.  I will have to look at the data the folks are reporting on to see if that is still generally true or if we have budged out of the top spots.

and I have updated my regional migration report on the UCSUR publications page fwiw. 


Anonymous Anonymous said...


The UCSUR publications page is:



Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:07:00 PM  
Anonymous BrianTH said...

Net migration from New York City? There goes the neighborhood.

More seriously, we seem to be raiding most of the Great Lakes (perhaps no surprise).

Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous DBR96A said...

Net migration in Pennsylvania in 2010 was greater than net migration in Georgia. Time to bury the stupid "leaving in droves" shit once and for all.

Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:13:00 AM  
Anonymous BrianTH said...

Don't you know this is all just a temporary hiccup? Sun Belt sprawl will come back. Probably right after the steel mills start up again.

Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:28:00 AM  
Anonymous The Wiz said...

People have been moving in from Jersey for many years. And from New York. In my previous incarnation, I knew many builders in the Poconos that were building for New Yorkers that commuted to NYC. Just for kicks, drive I80 into Jersey around 6 PM and see the miles of backups of cars entering Pa near Stroudsburg. There was talk about extending a train line into Pa for these people, don't know if they completed it.

There was an even a big scandal ten years ago that Pocono builders, bankers, and realtors were conspiring to sell homes at inflated prices to NYers that didn't know the local market. Scam got exposed when some people tried to sell their homes years later and couldn't get close to what they paid for them.

Pa is not Philly and Pitts with Alabama in between as Carville said but actually two states, west vs east. Drive the 'pike east and you can see the difference when you cross through the mountains. Same with I80.

Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:41:00 AM  

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