Friday, December 09, 2011

The Paris of Cleveburgh

OK. the game is over and we are Cleveburgh again.

So this is interesting in lots of ways.  The Cleveland Plain Dealer is just now reporting on developments at the Pittsburgh International Airport. See:  Pittsburgh airport says regional strategy and shale can propel air traffic.   So to begin, points for connecting shale to everything.  How many folks from Bradford are going to be filling seats to Paris I am a bit dubious of, but still.  With apologies to Brian O it gives another whole  meaning to the Paris of Appalachia meme. 

Why is the article really interesting?  It's funny when folks talk about promoting Cleveburgh you also see the head on competition for air traffic going on between folks here and folks in Pittsburgh.  Kind of anti-Cleveburgh thinking in all of that. But the amount of ink the Plain Dealer is spending on reporting on the Pittsburgh airport is a bit seminal fwiw.

and I really thought I was watching for local coverage of this pretty closely.. and it is possible I missed it.  Note that the PD article is giving a number for the amount of subsidy Delta got for year 2 of their Pittsburgh to Paris flight.  It says the 2nd year's subsidy was "less that (sic) $2 million", well down from the maximum $5 million for the first year of the flight.  We knew the $5 million number some time ago.   Did we really have to learn the (pseudo) $2 million number from the PD??  That would be fascinating. 

I will stand corrected if someone can find a public record of the 2nd year number.  I only note I did not see any data on this as of this July 2011 post.

and I'll add one other thing on the general airport strategy of building up a regional flight network.  Don't you think that reads verbatim as the business plan for Allegheny Airlines at some point in the past.  I was recently told there is an Allegheny Airlines Historical Society.  Maybe we have that actual plan out there somewhere?


Blogger C. Briem said...

Hi Ken.

Friday, December 09, 2011 1:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Cole said...

From today's NPR Morning Edition:

When Airlines Depart Cities, Businesses May Follow

All around interesting, but callouts on USAir's Pittsburgh "dehubbing" and the Paris subsidy.

Friday, December 09, 2011 8:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Ken Zapinski said...

Hi Chris. Sorry to be so tardy today.

I'm afraid that my former PD colleague Allison Grant portrayed the information I gave her in a way that could lead to misinterpretation (e.g., your reaction.) I told her the same thing that we've said all along: Since we did not touch the state grant in Year Two, we're not providing any details on the deal. What that means is that IF the flight missed the revenue target, it missed it by less than $2 million. But we're not saying (actually we're contractually prohibited from saying) whether it exceeded the target, hit the target, or missed it.

Sorry that your sharp eyes were betrayed by inexact wording from a reporter.

But I'm glad you promoted the Plain Dealer coverage. As we like to point out, if you're in Downtown Cleveland and are headed to Paris, it's quicker to drive to PIT and fly nonstop than it is to hop on a connecting flight from Cleveland through Newark(when the PIT flight returns on March 24, of course.)

-- Ken Zapinski, Allegheny Conference

Friday, December 09, 2011 3:36:00 PM  
Blogger C. Briem said...

Just thinking about this again. You know though.. even your statement of "if.. at most $2 mil" is not in the public record locally here in Pittsburgh.

The 'quicker to drive from Cleveland' argument I guess would only apply if one was traveling Cleveland to Paris. It would not work at all if someone was taking the CDG flight to get somewhere else in Europe. I myself have been on the CDG flight 5 times RT. Only one of them was to actally to to Paris itself. Seems a touch sell for Cleveland. I wonder if we know what percentage of travellers using the flight direct PIT-CDG actually have Paris as their destination?

On related topics. Those Euro troubles are probably impacting those talks to get a flight to Germany back I figure.

Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:10:00 AM  
Blogger John Morris said...

Not going to happen but if Cleveland and Pittsburgh shared a major airport in say the Youngstown region it could support international flights.

Not many things show the need for more regional thinking.

Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Danielle said...

Such a great article it was which the Cleveland Plain Dealer is just now reporting on developments at the Pittsburgh International Airport. In which the general airport strategy of building up a regional flight network.Thanks for sharing this article.

Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:59:00 AM  

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