Thursday, September 27, 2012

The good, the bad and.... the confused?

So this has me all conflicted more than most anything of late.

So just to lay it out there, Gawker has Pittsburgh nominated as the most racist city in America.

No doubt we have things to talk about and if you ask me the biggest problem here is that we just don't talk about race.  For sure some do, but it is mostly different folks talking at one another and little talking with one another.  Probably a similar story lots of places, but we just don't have a constructive dialogue here to really address some of the problems we do have.

Still... Gawker has a few datapoints highlighted on how we got this nomination.  One of the main ones itemized there is an incident at the "Highland Park Pool".  If you dig into it, it is something that happened in 1931?

One of the other datapoints is not from the city proper at all?? 

A third datapoint dates to the 1800's???

and a 4th has something to do with 'discriminatory roller rinks'?  I mean...  we have roller rinks?  The actual Pittsburgh roller rink situation referenced comes from 1957 and something called the "Lexington Roller Rink".  


Anonymous DBR96A said...

Pittsburgh is neither as tolerant as many white people would claim nor as racist as many black people would claim.

From my direct experience, Pittsburgh is no more racist than Atlanta. The only real difference is that racist people broadcast their racism in Pittsburgh but whisper their racism in Atlanta.

Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:46:00 PM  
Anonymous MH said...

They talk really slowly in Atlanta. Maybe you weren't patient enough to get to the racism part.

Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:34:00 PM  
Anonymous DBR96A said...

What I mean is, they're not going to roll down the windows of their cars and shout slurs at people on the sidewalk, but they will make insensitive comments in private when their target isn't around. But racism is racism regardless of the volume or where it's aimed.

Friday, September 28, 2012 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've never heard or seen anyone roll down their windows and yell racist stuff in Pittsburgh.

Friday, September 28, 2012 8:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for pointing out the dates. I found the references, too, and thought the writer must have some sort of problem with the city. I've traveled quite a bit and lived in 4 big American cities. Pittsburgh doesn't even fall as the most racist in that group, let alone the entire country. Point out a place in the US where there is never any single racist thought or action. Wrong! There aren't any. Everyone can improve. What a waste of space that article is? What was the point?

Friday, September 28, 2012 9:07:00 AM  
Anonymous DBR96A said...

That whole family of websites is geared toward know-it-all douchebag males between the ages of 15 and 34.

Apparently the "Racist City Census" was created in response to e-mail from people who asked why certain cities didn't make the original top-five list; and since Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are two of the first four cities with articles, my sense is that the writer of the article got flooded by e-mail from self-loathing Pennsylvanians who downplay the good and embellish the bad about where they live.

Friday, September 28, 2012 9:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without the proliferation of lists and rankings Huffington Post wouldn't exist, students wouldn't know how to pick a college, and no one would ever move to Pittsburgh.

Friday, September 28, 2012 9:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This seems to be some kind of axe to grind, a few months ago the "Pittsburgh" wikipedia (the discussion which is here: article had a few adding an entire section concerning the perception that Pittsburgh was great but hey its the most "segregated". Alas a few of us at wikipedia went beyond the cited article and looked up the actual Brookings Institution and University of Pittsburgh studies and alas although there was a lot of smoke the actual rankings peg the metro (which when including places like Fox Chapel and Sewickley are very segregated wether intentionally so or not) as more in the range of #20 or so, with Chicago, NYC, Atlanta and LA being much much more segregated. I will point out that the few on wikipedia actually came up with studies in the last decade not the last century, so to see the actually paid people at Gwack use flimsy crap from a century ago gets me mad.

Friday, September 28, 2012 2:39:00 PM  

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