Thursday, January 24, 2013

by popular demand

Again from: Transit: A Part of the Pittsburgh Plan.  Report #3 of the Citizens' Committee on City Plan, September 1923.


Blogger Bill Price said...

Lawrence County is labeled Lancaster County.


Friday, January 25, 2013 2:45:00 AM  
Anonymous BrianTH said...

I believe most if not all of the rail line called on that map the Butler Short Line (starting at Etna) is still in place as a lightly used freight line. If we were going to do commuter rail into Butler County, that might be the path to choose.

Friday, January 25, 2013 9:39:00 AM  
Anonymous BrianTH said...

Some more info:

Friday, January 25, 2013 9:43:00 AM  
Anonymous BrianTH said...

Current rail map (large PDF) for comparison:

Friday, January 25, 2013 9:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, but this map doesn't show the zipline and wicker basket that crossed the Yough at Coulter. Many a mule made the trip to the mines and never came back.

Friday, January 25, 2013 9:56:00 AM  
Blogger jwsmith1984 said...

I believe the Butler Short Line ran over what is now Mount Royal Boulevard into Etna. It faltered early on, and was merged into the Harmony Line - which lasted as an inter-urban line into the early thirties of the Depression - and as a bus line into the mid fifties or thereabouts. I remember riding the handsome blue and red busses of the Harmony Line from East Liberty out to Wexford in the fifties.

It was originally conceived of as a largely freight carrying inter-urban line by Messrs. Boggs and Buhl who had a well-known department store in Allegheny (now the North Side).

To the best of my knowledge it was completely separate from the Route 8 B&O RR line - although that line carried rail passengers at one time. There was a station at Glenshaw which was rebuilt several times by local historians, but could not survive persistent vandalism.

Friday, January 25, 2013 9:04:00 PM  
Anonymous BrianTH said...

Interesting. I believe there is a train station in Mars along the railroad line and I thought it was associated with the interurban line, but I gather not.

Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:32:00 AM  
Blogger joe said...

In 1923 how long did it take to travel by trolley from Pittsburgh to Wilmerding?

In 1904, travel time (first down to McKeesport) was an hour and a half:

"The people of Wilmerding and the Turtle Creek valley in general do not have to depend entirely on the Pennsylvania railroad, for there is a trolley line to this city via McKeesport. This is a branch of the Pittsburg Railways company. The trip from Pittsburg to Wilmerding consumes about an hour and a half, while the train covers the distance in half an hour."

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